Brash Responds To Maharey
Don Brash
National Party Leader
30 January
2005
Brash responds to Maharey
This is a response to comments by Social Development and Employment Minister Steve Maharey on aspects of Don Brash's speech at Orewa on January 25.
DPB
Orewa speech: Women who refuse to name the father of their children will face a financial penalty.
Maharey: Already done. The present penalty is $22 a week and in a bill before the House, is to increase to $28 a week from July 1. There is a current programme of home visits to discuss penalty and support of naming of father. This programme works - since it began six months ago, the number of clients with penalty has decreased 12 percent. Child support is now being claimed from fathers named.
Brash responds: Fiddling around with the penalty by $6 is irrelevant - especially given the rise in income for those on the DPB due to the Working for Families package. Clearly, a much larger deterrent is required to ensure that fathers are named. There are over 18,000 DPB recipients who have refused to name the other partner.
What is more concerning is that in 1 in 5 of those 18,000 cases, Work and Income actually have the information regarding who the father is - but they cannot act on that information. Labour promised to deal with this problem nearly two years ago - yet we are still waiting.
Orewa speech: Those on the DPB will be required to undertake part-time employment, retraining or community service from the time that their youngest child reaches school-age.
Maharey: We've done it better. The Government passed legislation in 2002 so that all DPB recipients receive enhanced case management and must complete a personal development and employment plan that is reviewed every year. This matches their personal and family circumstances to employment opportunities. This is far superior to National's inflexible approach where they might only get to meet their case manager when the child turns 5 and 14.
Brash responds: Where National and Labour
differ is that Labour does not require DPB recipients to be
available to work. Work and Income's desk manual explicitly
states that "clients receiving the Domestic Purposes Benefit
cannot be pressured into taking up or accepting employment."
Mr Maharey's assertion that
clients might only get to meet their case manager when the
child turns 5 and 14 is wrong. The previous National
Government's work-testing requirements expected clients on
the DPB to look for part-time work when their youngest child
was between 6 and 13 years of age. Those whose youngest
child was 14 were expected to look for full time work. They
were also required to attend a yearly planning interview
with Work and Income, a requirement that was subsequently
retained by the Labour Government. National will ensure
that there is intensive case-management by Work and Income
to assist sole parents back into the full-time
workforce. Unemployment benefit Orewa speech: A 90-day
trial period will apply after beneficiaries have found work,
during which the parties can agree that employment can be
ended without penalty. Maharey: We've done it better. A
probationary arrangement is possible under current
legislation but must be a contractual arrangement. This
Government supports the employment rights of all workers
being maintained. Brash responds: Section 67 of the
Employment Relations Act currently states that you may
specify a probationary period in an employment agreement,
but the ordinary rules for personal grievances apply. You
cannot end the employment relationship if it doesn't work
out. Once you hire someone, you are stuck with them unless
they do something so bad it justifies them being sacked.
This means employers will not take a chance with certain
groups in our benefit system - the very young, the older
worker, the single parent and the immigrant. The OECD
pointed this out in its country survey on New Zealand in
2003, and noted that New Zealand was extremely unusual in
not having a personal grievance free period. In fact, New
Zealand was the only country out of 27 listed by the OECD
that specifically did not allow any personal grievance free
probationary period for new employees. The OECD noted that
the opportunities for certain groups to gain employment were
limited by this. Orewa speech: After applicants have
completed a set period of seeking work, the unemployment
benefit will be conditional on some form of community work
or approved training. Maharey: It didn't work. Current
policies focus on real jobs and not "make work" programmes.
National's 1990s work-for-the-dole scheme was so
unsuccessful that evaluation found that participants'
chances of getting a real job were less than if they hadn't
been part of the scheme at all. An Australian study had a
similar result. Brash responds: Wrong again. The scheme in
Australia, and elsewhere in the world, has worked. A study
of the Australian scheme once it was in full swing showed
that one-third of those referred to the scheme didn't
actually begin it - they left the benefit. This "compliance
effect" has been noted by the OECD in such programmes
worldwide. The Australian scheme also noted that
work-for-the-dole participants were significantly more
likely to leave the benefit than similar beneficiaries who
had not recently participated in the programme. Mr Maharey
should also probably mention that the Australian study he
refers to only covered the pilot programme. The study I have
referred to was of the full programme. Sickness and
invalids benefit Orewa speech: Beneficiaries will face a
more thorough medical evaluation. National will work with
doctors' groups to ensure consistency in the way those
applying for benefits are evaluated. Maharey: Already
done. The Government has been working with doctors for the
past 10 months to support them and improve the certification
process. The government has announced a trial to commence
next month which will allow GPs to seek a second opinion in
situations where they have some doubt. Brash responds:
About time. The numbers of people on sickness and invalids'
benefits have increased by nearly 40 percent since Labour
became government and by over 500 percent since 1975.
Questions have to be asked why Labour allowed the number to
spiral out of control since becoming Government. All
working age benefits Orewa speech: Those receiving a
working age benefit must ensure that their children have the
appropriate vaccinations, health and dental checks, and that
they attend school. Maharey: We've done it better. This
Government has a national vaccination programme. There is
free healthcare for under 6 year olds and we have introduced
Primary Health Organisations bringing accessible healthcare
to all. Dr Brash's proposal is a return to the ideas of
National's code of social and family responsibility. If
parents don't comply, their benefit will be cut. So
children will be hungry and cold as well as not vaccinated
and truant. Brash responds: Maharey's response is typical
of the politically correct Labour Government. The facts are
that New Zealand has a terrible immunisation completion rate
and consequently many Kiwi kids suffer from preventable
diseases. National makes no apology for requiring parents
to meet their obligations to ensure that their children are
immunised, attend medical/dental checks or attend school,
and we will use whatever mechanisms we have at our disposal
to ensure that this happens. The threat of benefit
sanctions may just be the incentive for some parents to get
their kids immunised and ensure that they don't truant. It
is about time New Zealanders made it clear that this form of
child neglect is unacceptable. It should also be noted that
those parents who make an informed choice not to have their
kids immunised will be exempt. Ends