Swanson: Live Blogging House War Funding Debate
By David Swanson
May 23rd 2007
http://afterdowningstreet.org/whip
Rule, to try to hide the war vote (this is what David Sirota claims will happen). If the Republicans vote No because they want an open debate, all of the Democrats except for the handful of them with some integrity, will have been lined up to vote Yes. Then that Yes vote will have to be depicted as (somehow) a vote to end the war by funding it. It appears more likely that, even with the vote on a rule, the Republicans will vote Yes to fund the war, and Democrats who join them will be clearly on record funding the war too.
10:30 a.m. They do appear to be debating and then voting on a rule. Congresswoman Louise Slaughter actually just claimed on the floor of the House that if Congress does not fund the war, Bush will continue the war but lack money for things the troops need. She promised to always fund the war. And she bragged about the (waiverable) "benchmarks," the minimum wage, etc., etc. What a disgrace! The troops can be left in Iraq or be brought safely home. They aren't going to be left in Iraq without food or supplies. A President who continues a war that Congress ends must be impeached, not obeyed.
10:40 Rep. David Dreier is speaking, apparently in opposition to the rule. The rule dumps more money into the war than Bush asked for. Bush should not be given any check, even with notes scrawled all over both sides of it, but this check is indeed blank. Dreier is not upset about that. He is upset about the maneuverings of the Democrats in Congress and the early morning Rules Committee meeting today.
10:44 Dreier is now speaking in support of continuing the war. Does this mean the Republicans will vote Yes? Will lots of Democrats (though not enough) vote No?
10:50 Rep. David Obey is talking now, blaming the White House for the late timing. "I hate this agreement. I'm going to vote against the major portion of this agreement even though I negotiated it." Wow. Obey should run for President. He's the sort of clear and consistent guy the Democrats like to run.
10:54 Obey is now blaming Bush's veto for preventing money from getting to the troops. As long as Obey is maintaining the pretense that the money is for the troops, and is planning to vote No on it, it is clear that he knows there are enough Yes votes for it to pass and that he wants it to pass.
Call Congress and help us update this list.
HOUSE
Nancy Pelosi - will vote No according
to American Progress Action Fund
Jerrold Nadler - will
vote No according to constituent Rusti Eisenberg, leans No
according to The Hill, will vote No according to Courtney
Lee Adams
Lynn Woolsey - will vote No according to The
Hill
Raul Grijalva - will vote No - has released
statement
Dennis Kucinich - will vote No - has released
statement
Jan Schakowsky - will vote No according to a
constituent
Ed Markey - will vote No according to
constituent Susan Lees
Anna Eshoo - will vote No
according to Lenny Siegel who found it on her
website
Welch - will vote NO -- from a constituent in
anonymous comment below
Barbara Lee - wil vote No
according to anonymous comment below
Carolyn Maloney -
will vote No according to constituent Frances
Anderson
Yvette Clark - undecided according to Rusti
Eisenberg, will vote no according to Sam Koprak
Lois
Capps - will vote No according to constituent Dinah Mason
who got that from Danielle in her DC office
Diane Watson
- will vote No according to Tim Carpenter who got an Email
from Jim Clarke in her office who said they'd received 300
calls about it today
Mike Capuano - will vote NO
according to constituent Vicky Steinitz
Pallone of NJ 6th
- will most likely vote NO on supplemental according to an
anonymous comment below citing a staffer.
Tammy Baldwin -
will vote No according to Joy First of Madison, WI, who
writes: "I called Tammy Baldwin's (Wisconsin House) staff in
DC and they told me she will vote no. We brought flowers to
her Madison office where it was confirmed by them
also."
Olver - will vote No according to an Email from
his staff sent to Tim Carpenter.
Keith Ellison - will
vote No (finally) according to Michael Perkins
Kennedy -
will vote No according to Providence Journal
Langevin -
will vote No according to Providence Journal
Sam Farr -
will vote no according to Medea Benjamin
Massachusetts
Reps - "Re our reps, we seem to have all NO votes here in
MA, except perhaps Lynch." - Susan Lees
Jim Moran - will
vote No according to constituent Peter Rush: "This is Peter
Rush, in Virginia, and I just called Jim Moran’s office
(VA-8) about 9:30 Thursday, and they told me Moran is voting
against the bill. If true, this would mean that he has
changed his mind, in the right direction, since yesterday. I
also called the offices of the other Democrats from
Virginia, Bobby Scott from Richmond (VA-3) and Rick Boucher
(VA-9), but their staffs say they don’t know how he will
vote, and Sen. Jim Webb, whose staffer also said he didn’t
know how Webb was going to vote. Webb gave a pretty strong
speech April 26 justifying his vote for the previous bill,
and it would be a betrayal of what he said if he turns
around and supports this one, so we’ll see."
Carol
Shea-Porter 1st District NH - will vote NO according to
Beth, an office staffer, according to constituent Barbara
Hilton. And she just said so on the floor.
Nydia Velasquez - is leaning No according to Eisenberg
Chris Van Hollen -
undecided according to constituent Sue Udry
Maurice
Hinchey - undecided according to The Hill
Ed Perlmutter -
undecided according to the Hill
Charles Rangel -
undecided, likely No, according to constituent Nancy
Kricorian
Bobby Scott - "Undecided! Richmond office
suggested he would vote no since he voted against war to
begin with but suggested I call DC office. Did so and was
told he was undecided, but the person that answered was
unaware that the debate would be taking place today (maybe
it is not?). Call his DC office at 202-225-8351 if he is
your rep. Thanks, Rain"
Bob filner - undecided according
to constituent Barbara Cummings who writes: "I just called
again and his DC office said he has not made up his mind and
is taking calls today. So I'm notifying everyone I know in
this district to call now. 202 225 8045 Please ask everyone
to call. They did ask for my address so don't cheat."
Mark Udall - is leaning Yes according to constituent Stephanie Westbrook, who writes: "Staff at Mark Udall's office (CO 2) haven't had a chance to talk with him about this (!) but think he will vote YES, in order to support the troops. I asked where in the supplemental there is anything about supporting the troops. No answer. I was reminded, as I am every time I call, that he voted against the war. I replied that it is much more acceptable to me someone who voted for the war back in 2002 and votes to end it now than vice-versa. I also told them that I read the statement on his web site saying he will introduce new legislation after memorial day which "implements the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group and provides a foundation for the phased withdrawal of American troops out of Iraq beginning in March of next year" and instead urge him to take action NOW by voting NO on the supplemental. If there are any other people out there from CO-2, please call Udall's office!"
Joe
Sestak - will vote Yes according to The Hill
Dutch
Ruppersberger - will vote Yes according to The
Hill
Larsen (D-WA)- will vote Yes according to anonymous
comment below
Danny Davis - will likely vote Yes: "I
spoke with him myself after hearing it from the
receptionist. He needs a SWARM!" - Robin, Maywood,
IL
Louise Slaughter - will vote yes: she actually claimed
on the floor of the House on Thursday morning that if
Congress does not fund the war, Bush will continue the war
but lack money for things the troops need. She promised to
always fund the war. And she bragged about the (waiverable)
"benchmarks," the minimum wage, etc., etc. What a
disgrace!
SENATE
Chris Dodd - will vote No and
said so on CNN according to Rusti Eisenberg
Russ Feingold
- will vote No - has released statement
Kerry and Kennedy
- "Yesterday we heard 'undecided' from both Kerry and
Kennedy offices.. Today's Boston Globe article now reports
Kerry as a NO, and Kennedy undecided." - Susan Lees
Dick
Durbin - undecided according to anonymous comment
below
Clinton - undecided according to Courtney Lee
Adams
Schumer - undecided according to Courtney Lee
Adams
Barbara Mikulski - will vote Yes
Reed - will vote
Yes according to Providence Journal
Whitehouse - will
vote Yes according to Providence Journal: Anonymous comment:
"Today's Providence Journal actually said, 'Sheldon
Whitehouse said he MAY also support the war funds bill.'
That means UNDECIDED, or leaning, not a firm YES as your
list indicates. C'mon, my fellow Rhode Islanders, call him
NOW."
Biden - will vote Yes according to USA
Today
ENDS