PQ 6. Better Public Services Targets—Participation in Early
6. Better Public Services Targets—Participation in Early
Childhood Education
[Sitting date: 24 July 2014.
Volume:700;Page:5. Text is subject to
correction.]
6. CATHERINE
DELAHUNTY (Green) to the Minister of
Education : What was the split, if any, by
percentage, of enrolment into private, public and home-based
ECE in the Better Public Service targets “Result 2:
Increase Participation in ECE”, and what was the relative
increases/decreases, for each, from the previous year?
Hon HEKIA PARATA (Minister of
Education):
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We do
not use enrolments in specific early childhood education
centres to measure the Better Public Services goal. Instead,
we use the prior participation rate, which measures whether
or not a child participated in early childhood education
before starting school. The Government is strongly committed
to getting more kids into early childhood education in
whatever kind of provider those parents choose, so that they
are much better placed when they get to school.
Catherine Delahunty : Given her public
service figures show an increase in the number of children
in home-based early childhood education, does the Minister
accept that the only way she was able to meet her Better
Public Services targets was by forcing children to enrol
into low-quality home-based early childhood education?
Hon HEKIA PARATA : No. Enrolments in
home-based services made up 9.37 percent of total enrolments
in both 2012 and 2013, while community-based services in
2012 were 53.1 percent and in private services it was 46.9
percent. In 2013 it was 50.8 percent for community-based
services and 49.2 percent for private services.
Catherine Delahunty : Is she confident
that all children who account for the increase in enrolment
figures are enrolled in quality early childhood education
services; if so, why?
Hon HEKIA PARATA
: I am confident that children are enrolled in the early
childhood education provision that is the choice of their
parents. These can be parent-based and home-based. They can
be teacher-led and centre-based. They can be in Te Reo
Māori,
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It is up to the parents
as to where they enrol them and to make those
determinations.
Catherine Delahunty : I
raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I appreciate the
Minister’s answer but my question was about—
Mr SPEAKER : Order!
[Interruption] Order! I heard the question and I
heard the answer. The question was addressed. If the member
wants to take the matter further, use further supplementary
questions. In fact, I will allow the member an additional
supplementary question.
Catherine
Delahunty : Thank you, Mr Speaker . Given that the
Minister canned the review of home-based early childhood
education and refuses to set a requirement for 100-percent
qualified teachers, how can she guarantee that children in
the early childhood education services are getting quality
education?
Hon HEKIA PARATA : 95.1
percent of teacher-led centres are funded at a rate of
80-plus percent for the qualified teachers. We have now
6,500 more qualified early childhood education teachers than
there were in 2008. In terms of the home-based education ,
we continue, through a working group, to work with the
home-based providers to determine how quality can be assured
in that area. So the member is quite wrong in both her
assertions.
Catherine Delahunty : Given
that in 2011 the Minister of Education promised a specific
review into home-based early childhood education because of
the concerns about the sector, why is she saying that that
is not going to happen?
Hon HEKIA
PARATA : I have not said that that is not going to
happen. What I have said—and just a few minutes ago—is
that there is a working group on home-based provision in
train now. Secondly, I have indicated that with the
significant investment into ELI, the Early Learning
Information System, which will give us more accurate data on
both child places and hour placements—that will give us a
better basis for making a determination. Thirdly, we are
engaged in a funding review. By the confluence of all of
this work, we will be in a better position to determine the
contribution that the home-based services make to the early
childhood education sector.
Te Ururoa
Flavell : Tēnā koe, Mr Speaker. E te Minita,
tēnā koe.
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Has the Minister
seen any reports on progress in increasing Māori
participation in the early childhood education area in
regions where participation is low, which addresses one of
the milestones set out in the relationship accord with the
Māori Party?
Hon HEKIA PARATA : Tēnā
koe, Mr Speaker. Tēnā koe, te Pāti Māori. Thank you for
that question. Yes. I am happy to tell you that in the past
2 years we have seen a 3 percent increase in Māori
participation in early childhood education, which brings the
overall total to 93 percent, and our target is 98 percent.
So it has risen significantly. We have more work to do.
Region by region it is also rising. Happily, our Public
Achievement Information framework will provide us with the
story, by 16 regional councils and by territorial local
authority, and therefore in terms of
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Catherine Delahunty :
Does the Minister agree with the National Health Committee
when it said that poor quality early childhood education can
do more harm than not participating in early childhood
education at all?
Hon HEKIA PARATA :
Well, I have not seen that particular report, but the
reports that I have seen have told us that the
opportunity—
Chris Hipkins : She
doesn’t read many.
Hon HEKIA PARATA :
I read a lot of reports, not always the Sunday
Star-Times, though, and what I do know is that quality
is made up of a range of things. It includes the
qualifications of the teachers. It includes the involvement
of parents. It includes the ratio of participation. It
includes the affiliation to
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All
of those together make up quality. Of course, the other
members of the House are not interested in quality.
Catherine Delahunty : I seek leave to
table the National Health Committee findings on the quality
of early childhood education being dangerous if children do
not receive—
Mr SPEAKER : Order! Can
I just clarify. Is this not a
document—[Interruption] Order! Is this not a
document that was distributed to all members of Parliament?
Catherine Delahunty : Well, the
Minister has not seen it and—
Mr
SPEAKER : Order! I am not prepared
to—[Interruption] Order! That document has been
distributed to everybody. It will not be tabled.
Catherine Delahunty : Why has the
Minister been so intent on driving the numbers of enrolments
up without focusing on quality, as the Green Party is
proposing to do by committing to having 100-percent
qualified teachers in teacher-led early childhood services?
Hon HEKIA PARATA : Yet another question
that is an assertion and has no fact. I am interested in how
we get more kids involved in early childhood education, how
we raise the diversity of choice for parents to decide for
themselves where they want to send their children, and how
we invest in quality. I have just told the House that 95
percent of teacher-led centres are funded at 80 percent and
above. This Government has also nearly doubled the spending
into early childhood education from $800 million to $1.5
billion. It is now 32 percent more affordable than it was in
2008. For every dollar a parent spends, this Government
spends $3.45. Next year, for the first time, this Government
has already funded a postgraduate qualification for
teachers. We do what we say, rather than—
Mr
SPEAKER : Order! [Interruption] Order!
Kevin Hague : I raise a point of order,
Mr Speaker. By sitting down the Minister has answered my
point of order.
Mr SPEAKER : It
probably was not an appropriate point of order then.