LawFuel: Interview with National Press Club President
LawFuel.co.nz - NZ Law News - LawFuel publisher John Bowie interviews National Press Club president Peter Isaac over issues relating to defamation law, journalism standards and training and related issues. See: www.lawfuel.co.nz
In www.
NationalPressClub .org. nz you have sought to generate an
enhanced industry-wide appreciation of the laws of
defamation. Are there any discernible results?
As is so often the case the campaign has had the
opposite effect of the one intended. After one of the
finance company trials there was a front page piece in The
Dominion Post which had a victim commenting about the
sentence meted out by the judge. The understandably
aggrieved investor blamed what they saw as the mildness of
the sentence being due to the judge and the people in the
dock being all from a similar exalted social circle.
You can criticise the judgement but not the
judge?
Quite so. Under the Westminster
system judges occupy a position in which they are beyond
criticism as judges. They are in this context more powerful
than the Monarch. You might say, for example, that Her
Majesty did this or that because her ancestor George 111 was
batty. But if you published the same thing about a trial
judge the consequences would be severe if the matter was
taken up.
In a broader context you are known to
ascribe this and other failings to the now institutionalised
tertiary journalist training?
We are
pretty radical on this one. We believe that journalist
training should now be subsumed into other fields and one of
these should be law. Another would be accountancy.
There is a general belief, even in the trade itself,
that journalism is antithetical to numbers in
general?
There is. The only consolation
here is that this is a world wide problem. Journalists
cannot handle financial data and so are always being taken
in by hidden qualifications such as “operating” profits
etc. You can read any newspaper any day of the week and find
the pseudo-slick phrase money on the balance sheet.
It is designed to give a false impression of conversance
with a complex subject. There is of course only one place to
have money and that is in the bank. Because journalists have
no insight they are dependent on what the late editor of The
Dominion, Jack Kelleher, always described as
“stenography,” i.e. just taking at face value what the
operators are saying.
Still, even at the
J-schools, there is some training?
True,
but do people, especially ones who have self-selected
themselves as journalists as they approach their 20s really
need to learn how to write English? They should be able to
do it by the time they finish secondary school. This is what
we are talking about here. Indeed in law and accountancy the
need for precision language is even more intense because so
much more rests on the word in these disciplines.
Still, more and more people want to become
journalists and more and more tertiary education capacity is
being devoted to their training?
All this
is against the macro-issue which is of course that as a
standalone vocation, oh, alright, profession journalism is
shrinking in terms of jobs available.
Isn’t the web creating opportunities all over
the place?
We are now into taboo
territory and one into which fearless journalists hesitate
to tread. The web zone is the free zone. Few, if anyone,
gets paid. When the web got going you could make quite a
bit, especially if you wrote on technical topics. Now all
this has gone too. You do it for the glory.
Can you be more specific on this?
I was asked to write for the Huffington Post. With the luck of the beginner, on my first try my mini pic was all over it, as was my scoop, as I liked to think of it. No pay of course. I was just so tickled to be up there with Alec Baldwin, George Clooney, Arianna, and the rest. A month or so later I sent something else off. Not quite such a sharp angle. Not even an acknowledgement in terms of a rejection. The Huffpo can pick and choose in this age of the 15 minute celebrity. This is what they are doing.
Talking about scoops, you
were in Britain when the Murdoch hacking story broke, and we
notice that Scoop nz, our version of the Huffpo is still
running your story of that time. Do you still stick with
it?
Events are unrolling pretty much as I
predicted in the story which is that the affair is being
talked through and will continue to be talked through just
as its previous manifestation of this purge genre, the
Calcutt Commission, was talked through….and through.
Is their any organic reason for this
around-the-houses approach?
The reason is
that almost all the dramatis personae of this current
catharsis are up to their necks in it. Much of the anti
Rupert movement outside the judicial realm seems to centre
on the former Formula 1 operations chief Max Mosley. Yet it
was his uncle the immensely rich physicist Derek Jackson who
sold the News of the World to Rupert in the first place.
Why do you think Murdoch was so hell-bent in
acquiring all of Sky in the UK?
As in
anything that impinges on themselves, you wont read or hear
this in the media. The scheme was that the Murdoch print
titles such The Times and The Sunday Times especially would
be bundled into a Sky subscription offering. This only made
sense if Rupert owned all of Sky. Otherwise he would have
been paying out to the benefit also of Sky’s other non
Murdoch shareholders.
Back home again now, it is
interesting to note that the National Press Club is
investigating the effect for good or evil that the media has
on the New Zealand economy
Again, we are
looking at this because nobody else is looking at it and the
reason that nobody else is looking at it is because they
dare not look at it for fear of antagonising the media. It
is often overlooked now that nothing happens in web zone and
the blogosphere in general until it is picked up by the
mainstream media. As it diminishes there is an inverse ratio
in which the influence grows of the remaining newspapers and
channels which the bulk of the population has been brought
up on.
Can you give us a preview?
Every other possible reason has been dissected to
the nth degree for New Zealand’s sluggish performance
economically. How can a nation considered to be the best
endowed per head of population in energy resources and
indeed natural resources in general, be so close to the
bread-line, and getting closer. Even the most cynical of us
must surely claim that New Zealanders set out to do the
right thing and can’t be bribed. As we have touched upon,
everyone seems to go to university. So where does the
problem lie? Is it under our
noses?
ENDS